Lionel Messi is an Argentine footballer, widely held to be the finest of his generation and by many the finest ever. Diagnosed with a growth hormone deficiency at ten, he moved from Rosario to Barcelona at thirteen because the club agreed to pay for the treatment, and stayed twenty-one years. He has won a record eight Ballons d'Or, the Copa América in 2021 and the World Cup in 2022.
A re-reading. The channel had done this chart once before on the birth time filed in the databank, got it wrong, and came back to it with the time the family actually gives — which is where the reading starts.
- Date of birth
- 24-06-1987
- Time of birth
- 16:20
- UTC-3
- Place of birth
- Rosario, Argentina
- 32.9442°S, 60.6505°W
- America/Argentina/Cordoba
- Rodden rating
- DD
- Conflicting data
Birth chart
D1 Rasi · D9 NavamsaThe Rasi chart is the birth chart itself. The Navamsa is its ninth division — each sign split into nine parts of 3°20′ — read alongside it for the strength a planet really carries, and for marriage. Both squares are drawn by the same engine as RVA Softwares, so the cusps in orange are the Placidus house cusps the software shows; the House column in the table below counts whole signs from the ascendant, which is what the video reading uses.
Planetary positions
9 planets · Whole sign houses
| Planet | Sign | Degree | Nakshatra | House | State |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sun | Gemini | 9.07° | Ardra | 8 | |
| Moon | Taurus | 23.26° | Rohini | 7 | EXALT |
| Mars | Gemini | 28.71° | Punarvasu | 8 | |
| Mercury | Gemini | 22.64° | Punarvasu | 8 | OWNRETRO |
| Jupiter | Aries | 1.33° | Ashwini | 6 | |
| Venus | Taurus | 22.86° | Rohini | 7 | OWN |
| Saturn | Scorpio | 23.06° | Jyeshtha | 1 | RETRO |
| Rahu | Pisces | 13.56° | Uttara Bhadrapada | 5 | RETRO |
| Ketu | Virgo | 13.56° | Hasta | 11 | RETRO |
Houses here are whole sign — the whole rising sign is the first house, the next sign the second, and so on. That is what the video reading uses. RVA's own janam kundali chart uses Placidus cusps instead, so a planet early or late in a sign can show a different house number there.
Vimshottari dasha
9 mahadashas · Jupiter now
Birth star Rohini (Moon), 0.05 years of the first period unspent at birth.
- Moon1977-07-13 → 1987-07-1310y
- Mars1987-07-13 → 1994-07-137y
- Rahu1994-07-13 → 2012-07-1218y
- JupiterNOW2012-07-12 → 2028-07-1216y
- Saturn2028-07-12 → 2047-07-1319y
- Mercury2047-07-13 → 2064-07-1217y
- Ketu2064-07-12 → 2071-07-137y
- Venus2071-07-13 → 2091-07-1320y
- Sun2091-07-13 → 2097-07-136y
Chart analysis
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The reading
Whole-sign houses, as used in the videoThe whole chart is one retrograde Saturn
The ascendant is Scorpio at 14.78°, in Anuradha — and Saturn sits in the same sign at 23.06°, retrograde, in Jyeshtha. Saturn owns the third from this ascendant and has landed in the star of the eighth lord, who is also retrograde. The video is explicit that this is where the game is: the whole thing is in Saturn's hands.
Read flatly that is a difficult opening — a malefic camped on the ascendant, taking a long time to turn direct, which the reading takes as stubbornness. What redeems it is what Saturn is pointing at.
An eighth house that four planets make into an asset
In the eighth house in Gemini sit the Sun, Mercury and Mars. Mercury owns the eighth and is in it, retrograde; Mars owns the sixth and has joined it; and the Sun, which owns the tenth, is there too, forming budha-aditya yoga with Mercury. Sixth lord with eighth lord in the eighth, and the career lord standing in the middle of them: the reading calls this a vipareeta raja yoga and says the eighth house has turned favourable.
What that buys, in the words used at 9:30: results better than the effort put in, success that is not expected, sudden money and sudden opportunity. And its cost, from the same placement: with all these sixes and eights, falling and taking knocks is common. Both halves were stated before a single event was read out.
Venus in its own seventh, Moon exalted beside it
Venus owns the seventh house and sits in it in Taurus at 22.86°, forming malavya mahapurusha yoga — one of the five great yogas — with the exalted Moon right next to it at 23.26°. Both are in Rohini, the same nakshatra, and the reading points that out as the reason the pair works as a unit.
The seventh is the house of the public, so a Venus this strong in it was read as name and reputation earned in front of people, whatever the trade turned out to be. Ketu's presence with Venus takes something back from the marriage significations — but the exalted Moon balances it, and the reading settles on the relationship holding.
"He is not trying for success — he is fixing what would fail"
The line that gives this reading its character comes at 12:44, from a man who says plainly that he does not know the sport. Because the sixth and eighth houses are the strong ones, and the sixth is the house of protection and prevention, the conclusion drawn was about method rather than talent: he is not trying for the success, he is trying to learn from the mistakes and fix the places where he is going to fail.
The dashas follow the same logic. Moon's period ends a month after birth. Mars, 1987 to 1994, is average — no planet in its star, and nothing expected from the family. Rahu, 1994 to 2012, is mixed, because it activates the eighth house. Jupiter, 2012 to 2028, is clean: it is the second lord, well placed, connected to gains. Saturn from 2028 is the one the reading refuses — a malefic in a trine, with Rahu in its star. What it said about that period: whatever comes then will be played against people rather than against opponents.
Reading against reality
9 of 9 calls matched to a documented event- 1987–89What the chart said
Progressive tenth house sextile natal Venus and trine Saturn. A year and a half of unexpected family situations, or the baby's health — asked as a question before any answer was given.
What happenedGrew up largely around his grandmother Celia, who took him to his first training sessions.
- 1993–98What the chart said
Progressive Venus opposition from 1993 and the tenth house trine retrograde Uranus. Emotional damage rather than material — <i>deep relationship issues, disappointment</i> — with the significator of the mother afflicted.
What happenedHis grandmother died. The participant read the year off the reading as 1995; the public record puts Celia's death in 1998, when he was ten. He has marked every goal since by pointing at the sky for her.
- 1998–99What the chart said
Progressive tenth house trine Jupiter with the progressive Moon favourable: an important step, and a health matter identified and solved rather than suffered. <i>We are treating it — he comes out of the suffering.</i>
What happenedDiagnosed with a growth hormone deficiency at about ten. The treatment cost more than the family could carry; the money was found, and in 2000 Barcelona agreed to pay for it and signed him.
- 2003–04What the chart said
Progressive tenth house sextile the natal Sun, cleanly formed, in Mercury sub-period. Recognition in whatever he plays, and from here <i>he goes without looking back.</i>
What happenedScored 36 goals in 30 games for Barcelona's cadete A side in the 2002–03 season and made his first-team debut in November 2003. In the same stretch he fractured a cheekbone and played in a protective mask.
- 2008–12What the chart said
The eighth lord turns direct and forms a sextile in 2008: <i>the knocks stop now.</i> Venus sub-period with malavya yoga — relationship, then work opportunity, then money, all at once.
What happenedOlympic gold in 2008, then the first of his Ballons d'Or in 2009 and a run of four in a row, the record 91-goal calendar year in 2012, and the contract that made him the highest-paid player in the sport. His relationship with Antonela Roccuzzo also dates from this stretch.
- 2016–17What the chart said
Progressive tenth house square natal Saturn and Venus — reversal aspects — and square the Moon, which is not. A challenge that has to be rectified, in sport or in the personal side, with no room to discount it.
What happenedLost the Copa América Centenario final on penalties in June 2016 and announced his retirement from international football the same night.
- 2019–21What the chart said
Progressive Sun approaching a trine to the natal ascendant, progressive Moon favourable: a second innings — another opportunity, another line of work, something to lift again.
What happenedReversed the retirement, and in July 2021 captained Argentina to the Copa América — his first senior international trophy — before leaving Barcelona for Paris the following month.
- 2022What the chart said
Progressive tenth house sextile natal Mars: progress <i>ten times, twenty times</i> beyond what he expects, with a damaging Mars–Saturn trine alongside it that turns injury into recovery.
What happenedWon the World Cup in Qatar, and the Golden Ball as its best player.
- 2024–25What the chart said
Nothing miraculous called — the old aspect still running, normal progress, no lift. Then, in the sub-period running at the time of recording, the eighth-house Rahu activating: a negative result.
What happenedA record broken and a first hat-trick in the 2024 season; Argentina lost the match the participant raised on the call.
The birth time is the point of this reading. Astro-Databank carries 8:30 pm from a certificate uploaded by an astrologer; his mother has said 4:20 pm. This video takes 4:20 pm — the astrologer notes his own calculation lands at 4:08, where the Moon changes nakshatra — and gets Scorpio rising in Anuradha, which is the chart everything here is read from. The Rodden rating is therefore given as DD, conflicting data, rather than the AA the databank shows. An earlier video on the same channel read this chart on the 8:30 pm time and reached the wrong conclusions; the channel says so at the start of this one, and that video is deliberately not used on this page. Events were checked against public record: the grandmother's death is dated 1998 here, though the call recorded it against 1995.
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